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Post by Cracker Larry Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:28 am

I like the sheer better with a curve rather than flat.

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Post by Admin - Shine Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:17 am

yeah, its slightly upward sloping now but I think we flattened it a bit too much.
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Post by Cracker Larry Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:46 am

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Post by Admin - Shine Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:47 pm

this boat is going to need a name................ any ideas?

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Post by Admin - Shine Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:47 am

Plans will be ready soon, but the webpage it up (less detailed descriptions) as is the epoxy/glass kit.

https://www.gulfstreamcomposites.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SS17

In order to help get a few of these built we will offer a discount on the epoxy kit equal to the price paid for the plans.

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Post by Madmooner Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:30 pm

I agree with Cracker Larry, definitely got "flattened" out a bit much. The second design set is much better! I like the entry and higher bow. More panga like.

I will be looking at just after the holidays. Hunting season is taking up my free time for the next couple months. It will also give me time to get materials in and organized, and a spot set up in the garage.

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Post by Madmooner Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:33 pm

If I want to start calling around about wood, what am I looking for? Dimensions, etc...

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Post by Admin - Shine Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:41 pm

Madmooner wrote:If I want to start calling around about wood, what am I looking for? Dimensions, etc...

strips are going to be 3/8" thick western red cedar. You can get it from any decent lumber yard. You will cut the strips from boards, and the board thickness will determine the width of your strip. I would look for boards at least 1" thick, 1-1/2" would be good too and save you some work (less strips). Boards typically come in 10/14/16 foot lengths. I priced them locally (in FL) and a 1"x6" board was $1.38 per linear foot - i imagine they will be the same of better out your way since your a lot closer to the trees.

We are working on the plywood parts now, but the plan is to make everything from one thickness (3/8" thick) so you only need to source one thickness and allows better use of scrap. Will know how many sheets very soon.

Epoxy/glass kit is ready Wink I will send a download link to the plans as soon as they are ready.

Besides all of that, there is not much else to source besides some lumber for a strongback and some MDF for molds. All that can come from the home improvement store.

One of my ideas for this skiff is to make it build-able without needing to pay freight for special plywood. By all means, try to find marine ply, that is the first choice. If you cannot find it then you can use good quality exterior grade ply, no knots or voids.
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Post by Madmooner Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:41 pm

Thanks Joel.

Is there a certain grade of WRC board I should look for? Does it need to be 100% clear?

Table saw the best tool to rip the boards into 3/8" strips? Any issue with 2x lumber instead of 1 or 1 1/2 x?

Seems to be a lot of Alaskan Yellow Cedar around here. Is that a good substitute?


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Post by Admin - Shine Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:27 pm

Yes, yellow cedar will work too. It's properties are very close to western red cedar. No problem cutting two inch white strips either, you may want to use some slightly narrower strips along the chine and sheer, then run the wider strips in between. The strips do not need to be parallel, in order to work. In other words, they don't need to twist. The only strips that will twist will be the ones that you use along the chine and sheer. . It's okay if the boards have a few knots, but clear makes for less joints/work. The strips shouldn't have knots in them (at least none that are significant). Remember the strips are merely the core, they do not have to be as perfect as if you were building a "wood" boat.

Let me know what you find

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Post by Admin - Shine Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:46 pm

Design is complete, we are now putting together the plans, jig plans, and building notes. Here is a link to the SS17............


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Post by Madmooner Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:47 pm

Hi Joel- Just looked at your 25 project, looks like you are about to start strip planking! I'm excited to see it come together. Should help me immensely to see it.


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Post by Madmooner Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:49 pm

You using a table saw to rip the strips? Rip them full length (6' or 8'?) and then cut to size? The boards surfaced on 4 sides or is that not necessary since you are cutting into strips?

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Post by Admin - Shine Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:06 pm

Madmooner wrote:You using a table saw to rip the strips? Rip them full length (6' or 8'?) and then cut to size? The boards surfaced on 4 sides or is that not necessary since you are cutting into strips?

Yes, a table saw makes it super fast. You don't need 4s for the sanded finish. The cedar I just purchased for the big boat was all 4s, but that was only because the better quality boards (almost perfectly clear) only came sanded. So I got 1.5"x5.5" (actual size) clear and dry for $2.40 linear foot, 14' boards. For the skiff you can use shorter boards. Most of the strips can be from 8' boards using just one joint. You might try to get one 10' board to make some of the longer strips.
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Post by Admin - Shine Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:02 pm

Skiff plans are ready:D . 94 pages with some extras thrown in. Detailed drawing for every part. Construction sequence drawings. CNC files will be sold separately. Plans are in PDF format and sold in digital format (email or download)
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Post by Admin - Shine Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:12 pm

Madmooner wrote:Hi Joel- Just looked at your 25 project, looks like you are about to start strip planking! I'm excited to see it come together. Should help me immensely to see it.


Are you still planning to start the skiff soon?
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Post by Madmooner Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:41 pm

Hi Joel!
Yep! Shifting back into boat mode. In the fall hunting kinda takes over. Now the days are getting longer and it's back to boats and fishing on the brain. Lol. I'll give you a shout and start ordering materials as funds allow and get this project going!

Hope all enjoyed their holidays!

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Post by Admin - Shine Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:35 pm

Madmooner wrote:Hi Joel!
Yep! Shifting back into boat mode. In the fall hunting kinda takes over. Now the days are getting longer and it's back to boats and fishing on the brain. Lol. I'll give you a shout and start ordering materials as funds allow and get this project going!

Hope all enjoyed their holidays!

Sounds good!


Just getting back in full swing after holidays here as well.
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Post by toddinbr Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:22 pm

Joel, I am digging the plans! I am sourcing out the wrc right now. I know this is kind of a tough question but do you have a rough estimate on the number of 2x6 x 10' and 1x6's I'll need to get to strip the hull? I plan on picking up the ply and MDF this weekend.

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Post by Admin - Shine Wed Mar 30, 2016 1:25 pm

The way I estimated for the 26 was to divide the widest point of the hull by 1.5", multiply by the average length (somewhere around the side/bottom/keel. This will give you a number greater than what you need, but with waste its ended up being pretty close.
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Post by Sanders Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Has anyone built this design yet? I would love to see some pictures. I am about to source the plywood and start cutting. It will be late winter before I can clean the shop out and make room for construction. Thanks

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Post by Admin - Shine Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:17 am

Sanders wrote:Has anyone built this design yet? I would love to see some pictures. I am about to source the plywood and start cutting. It will be late winter before I can clean the shop out and make room for construction. Thanks

No pictures yet, but there are a number of people who should be under construction. Hopefully someone will post some pictures !
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Post by Ignacio López Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:35 pm

Hi Joel, I'm happy to read you've sold several units. I wait for the photos.

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