new skiff design

now that we are decided on sheathed strip construction we move forward with the design.  Here is the next rough draft for consideration.  I think we will flatten out the sheer line just a bit.  Right now disregard the deck and insides, we are working on hull shape now. WELCOMING COMMENTS NOW

The pics just show as a grey minus sign for me. I am logged in. Looks like they are pointing to google.

So strange seems these google galleries are viewable different ways.  Below are the pictures posted two ways, and here is a link to the whole gallery...

https://goo.gl/photos/xyVtacnNnvYUP3t79

a third way using this forums upload option...

I dig it Joel!
Looks nice and stable.

Sweet. I like it

Madmooner wrote:I dig it Joel!
Looks nice and stable.

Im glad you like it, we are moving right along with the design. What is your time frame to start building? I think we might be ready in a couple weeks with the plans.

DAYTRP wrote:Sweet. I like it

Thanks! Yes, it should be a great all around skiff. Could be built as a center console or flats boat too.

Exactly what I was thinking. Reminds me of the 15 I built

Very nice lines. I like it too!

Still rough draft, but progressing.  The rear casting deck is just about the same height from the sole, so it makes sense to make this the same level with gunnels, Of course it would be very easy to make the rear deck shorter if you wanted.  The motor-well will be a little different than what you see in the picture, and if you plan to use a jack plate, it can be built without a motorwell.  

I like the sheer better with a curve rather than flat.

yeah, its slightly upward sloping now but I think we flattened it a bit too much.

Better

this boat is going to need a name................ any ideas?

Plans will be ready soon, but the webpage it up (less detailed descriptions) as is the epoxy/glass kit.

https://www.gulfstreamcomposites.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SS17

In order to help get a few of these built we will offer a discount on the epoxy kit equal to the price paid for the plans.

Joel

I agree with Cracker Larry, definitely got "flattened" out a bit much. The second design set is much better! I like the entry and higher bow. More panga like.

I will be looking at just after the holidays. Hunting season is taking up my free time for the next couple months. It will also give me time to get materials in and organized, and a spot set up in the garage.

If I want to start calling around about wood, what am I looking for? Dimensions, etc...

Madmooner wrote:If I want to start calling around about wood, what am I looking for? Dimensions, etc...

strips are going to be 3/8" thick western red cedar. You can get it from any decent lumber yard. You will cut the strips from boards, and the board thickness will determine the width of your strip. I would look for boards at least 1" thick, 1-1/2" would be good too and save you some work (less strips). Boards typically come in 10/14/16 foot lengths. I priced them locally (in FL) and a 1"x6" board was $1.38 per linear foot - i imagine they will be the same of better out your way since your a lot closer to the trees.

We are working on the plywood parts now, but the plan is to make everything from one thickness (3/8" thick) so you only need to source one thickness and allows better use of scrap. Will know how many sheets very soon.

Epoxy/glass kit is ready I will send a download link to the plans as soon as they are ready.

Besides all of that, there is not much else to source besides some lumber for a strongback and some MDF for molds. All that can come from the home improvement store.

One of my ideas for this skiff is to make it build-able without needing to pay freight for special plywood. By all means, try to find marine ply, that is the first choice. If you cannot find it then you can use good quality exterior grade ply, no knots or voids.

Thanks Joel.

Is there a certain grade of WRC board I should look for? Does it need to be 100% clear?

Table saw the best tool to rip the boards into 3/8" strips? Any issue with 2x lumber instead of 1 or 1 1/2 x?

Seems to be a lot of Alaskan Yellow Cedar around here. Is that a good substitute?

Yes, yellow cedar will work too. It's properties are very close to western red cedar. No problem cutting two inch white strips either, you may want to use some slightly narrower strips along the chine and sheer, then run the wider strips in between. The strips do not need to be parallel, in order to work. In other words, they don't need to twist. The only strips that will twist will be the ones that you use along the chine and sheer. . It's okay if the boards have a few knots, but clear makes for less joints/work. The strips shouldn't have knots in them (at least none that are significant). Remember the strips are merely the core, they do not have to be as perfect as if you were building a "wood" boat.

Let me know what you find

Joel

Design is complete, we are now putting together the plans, jig plans, and building notes. Here is a link to the SS17............


https://www.gulfstreamcomposites.com/Articles.asp?ID=261

Hi Joel- Just looked at your 25 project, looks like you are about to start strip planking! I'm excited to see it come together. Should help me immensely to see it.

You using a table saw to rip the strips? Rip them full length (6' or 8'?) and then cut to size? The boards surfaced on 4 sides or is that not necessary since you are cutting into strips?

Madmooner wrote:You using a table saw to rip the strips? Rip them full length (6' or 8'?) and then cut to size? The boards surfaced on 4 sides or is that not necessary since you are cutting into strips?

Yes, a table saw makes it super fast. You don't need 4s for the sanded finish. The cedar I just purchased for the big boat was all 4s, but that was only because the better quality boards (almost perfectly clear) only came sanded. So I got 1.5"x5.5" (actual size) clear and dry for $2.40 linear foot, 14' boards. For the skiff you can use shorter boards. Most of the strips can be from 8' boards using just one joint. You might try to get one 10' board to make some of the longer strips.